tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post7132105479849394873..comments2024-03-16T00:21:43.240+00:00Comments on Separated by a Common Language: aberrantlynneguisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861noreply@blogger.comBlogger77125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-8545417568685268662021-07-06T20:13:22.888+01:002021-07-06T20:13:22.888+01:00AmE California native, but I spent much of my earl...AmE California native, but I spent much of my early childhood in central Virginia. <br /><br />aberrant: uh-BEAR-int. <br />aberrated: uh-BEAR-ih-tid. <br />aberration: ah-bur-AY-shin. TVDivahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12861364193669839682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-49140314037210463792020-07-10T22:24:13.781+01:002020-07-10T22:24:13.781+01:00Concur...77 yoa ... BA in Lit 1967.Concur...77 yoa ... BA in Lit 1967.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08550846387946167320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-1057807249489493332020-07-10T22:23:05.415+01:002020-07-10T22:23:05.415+01:00Yes. Concur.Yes. Concur.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08550846387946167320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-22807434483496289502020-07-10T22:21:27.840+01:002020-07-10T22:21:27.840+01:00Yes. The only one I used and heard. I am 77. Colle...Yes. The only one I used and heard. I am 77. College ..Span. Lit. Dad taught English lit at Columbia. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08550846387946167320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-62488704549491437912019-05-18T18:51:00.158+01:002019-05-18T18:51:00.158+01:00BrE, Scot. Normally, I would use second syllable s...BrE, Scot. Normally, I would use second syllable stress (as in abhorrent). However, having read all of the comments so far, I could go either way. BTW, in by dialect, ahBERRent, BERR doesn’t rhyme with any of BUH, BUHR, BEAR or BARE.Shy-replyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01891566073375322808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-27424142366839939832011-01-02T23:27:58.549+00:002011-01-02T23:27:58.549+00:00So my brother (18) and I (20) both said AB-er-rant...So my brother (18) and I (20) both said AB-er-rant. and we were raised in Kansas. <br />Mom (50) said a-BER-rant. This might be a generational difference rather than geographical.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-74771976433459572362010-06-05T02:52:09.306+01:002010-06-05T02:52:09.306+01:00Second syllable stress- MichiganSecond syllable stress- MichiganAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-9305949019439954992010-05-06T08:41:15.389+01:002010-05-06T08:41:15.389+01:00Native (Southern) Californian with many years of I...Native (Southern) Californian with many years of Ivy League education (not to brag, but to point out significant time spent in Boston).<br /><br />I've only ever heard first syllable stress. As others have mentioned, I had no idea there was any other way to say it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-17410289616092784872010-04-27T01:16:04.871+01:002010-04-27T01:16:04.871+01:00ABerrant. I've lived in Toronto, Ontario, Can...ABerrant. I've lived in Toronto, Ontario, Canada for roughly six decades.<br /><br />Has anyone else ever noticed both PRODuce and proDUCE as nouns? I thought that proDUCE was a Bahamian aberration (*a-hem*) until I heard "farm-fresh proDUCE" extolled on an Atlanta, Georgia, USA television station.Donnanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-70928137518147866222010-04-16T06:03:37.985+01:002010-04-16T06:03:37.985+01:00I'd recognize either form, and having read thi...I'd recognize either form, and having read this discussion, I'm not longer certain which syllable I'd stress spontaneously. In dialogue I'd probably accommodate to the other speaker's usage if they said it first.<br /><br />(Western New England accent here)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-25298552111140414892010-04-15T05:38:16.305+01:002010-04-15T05:38:16.305+01:00First syllable stress, and have never heard it any...First syllable stress, and have never heard it any other way. AmE, 2 decades in WV, followed by 2 decades in MA.Charles Hnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-70131438545296009232010-04-13T23:39:02.677+01:002010-04-13T23:39:02.677+01:00Second syllable stress - although I don't reca...Second syllable stress - although I don't recall ever saying the word, that's just how I "hear" it in my head when I read it.<br /><br />(38yo Australian)Mrs Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05655632448285928588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-76204514848510615312010-04-13T22:20:05.527+01:002010-04-13T22:20:05.527+01:00Second syllable stressed in "aberrant". ...Second syllable stressed in "aberrant". Irish. The AHD's comment "the words aberration and aberrated, which are stressed on the first syllable" is misleading; the primary stress of "aberration" is on the third syllable, <a href="http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/aberration" rel="nofollow">as AHD itself shows</a>.<br /><br />There is secondary stress on the ab-, so that the stress of "aberration" matches "toleration", "refrigeration", "acceleration", etc, and hence "aberrant" might be made to match "tolerant", "refrigerant", "accelerant", etc. The difference of course is that "aberrant" is spelt with -erra- rather than -era-; why should Brits set more store by this than Yanks?mollymoolynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-39142982604429620692010-04-12T17:52:36.782+01:002010-04-12T17:52:36.782+01:00AB eh rent
Never heard otherwise. Lived in Chicag...AB eh rent<br /><br />Never heard otherwise. Lived in Chicago exclusively.rich s.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-46203949150873800572010-04-12T17:45:00.479+01:002010-04-12T17:45:00.479+01:00New Jersey (Northeast US), 30 years old
Aberrant ...New Jersey (Northeast US), 30 years old<br /><br />Aberrant first syllable stress<br />Aberration third syllable stress<br />Aberrated what the heck does that even mean? My spell checker doesn't even recognize it. My guess would be first syllable stress with perhaps a secondary third syllable stress.Boris Zakharinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16560756640621720539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-31320695014630070332010-04-12T11:31:01.783+01:002010-04-12T11:31:01.783+01:00AB-er-ent
VEN-er-ate
Los Angeles (first 26 years)...AB-er-ent<br />VEN-er-ate<br /><br />Los Angeles (first 26 years)<br />North of England (25 years)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-81134975092025257412010-04-11T23:17:50.700+01:002010-04-11T23:17:50.700+01:00Second syllable stress, first sounds well weird.
...Second syllable stress, first sounds well weird. <br /><br />Southern English RP by upbringing with assorted input from Hull, Manchester and Nottingham subsequently.Albert Herringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05195446593237255598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-83168155791947384602010-04-11T07:41:37.937+01:002010-04-11T07:41:37.937+01:00I meant 'lean toward' of course(TOW-uhrd? ...I meant 'lean toward' of course(TOW-uhrd? tuh-WARD?:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-45140913027365573102010-04-11T07:35:01.002+01:002010-04-11T07:35:01.002+01:00Both. Actually, AB-uhr-unt seems more SON-er-uhs t...Both. Actually, AB-uhr-unt seems more SON-er-uhs to me:) But that "geminated consonant" is what tips the scales in fav(u)or of the penultimate stress sometimes. It must be noted, though, that the Usage Note in the AHD might have influenced my both-are-fine attitude, since I'd read it ages ago as an ESL student. (And I lean to GA, if anything)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-74683113021226478992010-04-10T21:11:18.862+01:002010-04-10T21:11:18.862+01:0029, North Jersey English (like a previous commente...29, North Jersey English (like a previous commenter, I couldn't be influenced by my parents w/this word!)<br /><br />[ə.'be.ɹɪʔ]Emmethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15529277959703532939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-54855807531862472622010-04-10T08:42:06.532+01:002010-04-10T08:42:06.532+01:00Like RWMG and Max, I pronounce "aberrant"...Like RWMG and Max, I pronounce "aberrant" with second-syllable stress, with the DRESS vowel. BTW I'd give the initial "a" its full value to make it clear what word I'm saying: it's one I rarely if ever use.<br /><br />Same stress pattern as for "abhorrent" and "deterrent".<br /><br />Born and grew up in the Midlands [of England] and now live in the South-East.Richard Sabeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06707961497644079468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-26594495987092303622010-04-09T21:25:06.995+01:002010-04-09T21:25:06.995+01:00Exciting to see the international fanatic alphabet...Exciting to see the <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/pauldanon/home/international-fanatic-alphabet" rel="nofollow">international fanatic alphabet</a> really catching on here. Its glorious imprecision and lack of a schwa means that, actually, all syllables end up stressed, as do it users.<br /><br />Initial stress on <b>aberrant</b> leads to two schwas (IFA \UH UH\) and then, I suggest, to virtual disyllabism as in /'æbɹnt/.<br /><br />All it needs is for <b>aberrant</b> to be defined in AmE as a foreign word and/or type of coffee and it will immediately rectify to trisyllabic /'ɑ:bəɹɑ:nt/.Paul Danonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04816761952837296368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-47922881130786458762010-04-09T19:07:04.329+01:002010-04-09T19:07:04.329+01:00Second syllable stress, very mild. AmE, learned to...Second syllable stress, very mild. AmE, learned to speak English in Dutchess County, New York.Wendyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00651370185655705138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-11934951442595356302010-04-09T16:51:28.429+01:002010-04-09T16:51:28.429+01:00I don't think I've ever heard it with firs...I don't think I've ever heard it with first syllable stress. When reading the post, it took me a while to work out how that would sound.Ginger Yellowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06103410278129312943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-80284941273867435212010-04-09T16:36:28.605+01:002010-04-09T16:36:28.605+01:002nd syllable.
US AK. And, speaking of abberation...2nd syllable.<br /><br />US AK. And, speaking of abberations, I have no idea how Sarah Palin would pronounce it.Kristahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06844880034121298160noreply@blogger.com