tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post4113660400482541288..comments2024-03-16T00:21:43.240+00:00Comments on Separated by a Common Language: the big list of vegetableslynneguisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861noreply@blogger.comBlogger95125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-58099407735550323952022-11-09T17:39:09.785+00:002022-11-09T17:39:09.785+00:00The OED makes separate entries for pre-Columbian p...The OED makes separate entries for pre-Columbian <i>pompion</i> ("now rare") and later <i>pumpkin</i> ("with remodelling of the ending after words in -kin suffix"). It's somewhat arbitrary where to draw the line on when something becomes a different word, vs. a different pronunciation of the same word. <br /><br />Yes, "squash" was used in English first for summer squashes: the earliest known written references from colonial New England say they're eaten in summer, and describe them as "Vine ap[p]les ... sweet, light, wholesome, refreshing."ktschwarznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-85004956321186788912021-04-22T13:21:09.029+01:002021-04-22T13:21:09.029+01:00Another late to the party here... just to add, if ...Another late to the party here... just to add, if you were to ask for 'squash' in a UK supermarket you're as likely to be directed to the soft drinks aisle as the produce one. I don't think there's a US equivalent product for the diluted juice drink that's common here?<br />https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/shop/drinks/squash-and-cordial/allAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-17875467102848984802021-01-07T14:33:49.540+00:002021-01-07T14:33:49.540+00:00They are certainly a type of turnip, but used as a...They are certainly a type of turnip, but used as animal fodder, not people food. Mrs Redboots (Annabel Smyth)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11270027663691257254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-6825824462058942692021-01-06T19:24:27.676+00:002021-01-06T19:24:27.676+00:00Please add mangel-wurzels as Brit. for beets.Please add mangel-wurzels as Brit. for beets.myahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17063022241016550137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-75889282557599680302020-08-08T11:06:36.742+01:002020-08-08T11:06:36.742+01:00BrE. Re-visiting older posts, so late to the party...BrE. Re-visiting older posts, so late to the party. I’m a bit surprised that no one has mentioned that, in the U.K., beans with no modifier almost invariably means baked beans from a tin/can (haricot beans in tomato sauce). For example, on a cafe menu, beans on toast needs no explanation as to what type of beans are used.Shy-replyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01891566073375322808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-75228051703829239852016-08-28T10:21:31.645+01:002016-08-28T10:21:31.645+01:00About mange-tout - I was surprised to realise that...About mange-tout - I was surprised to realise that in Ireland where I live they are a type of peas left in the pod...when in france where I was born, it is a sort of large green bean ( wich the Irish calle french bean) ...haricot beans in FRance are just called haricots ( bean being the Englsh for haricot) and the nane for green (or sald) onions in Ieland is either scallions or chives...the most confusing is the term green pepper wich is temed capsicum in restaurants but green peppers in markets and can be any colour...as for American names, I have to refer to a dictionary almost every time, I learned this morning that rocket( a sort of salad leave) arugula in USA...Britt DuFourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06567275877874119923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-6619796191495526802016-05-16T21:16:35.496+01:002016-05-16T21:16:35.496+01:00I don't know if it's just different variet...I don't know if it's just different varieties of the same veh jie edible but here in Southern az you can buy both turnips and rutabaga they are quite different turnips are smaller with purple and white colored skin less dense off-white potato like textured flesh and a sweeter earthy flavour and aroma while what they call rutabagas here are bigger than navel oranges most often and are more tough with thicker skin and fibrous internal texture that's a dirty yellow color and have a more pungent kind of swampy or even decomposing leaf like odor Both are very unknown and underappreciated here in southern AZ I like to grate them both and blanch them and add to fresh grated jicama and some braggs unfiltered raw apple cider vinegar and liquid aminos and maybe some greek yogurt and fresh herbs for a delicious simple nutritious meal or snack.<br /><br /> se ritenete che la vostra cucina è Ritch e si ha la voglia di sorseggiare la crema della parte superiore della vita semplice ma dolce . provare un Vinaigrette yogurt mediterranee con noci tritate e ribes secchi <br /><br />I like language english is so unexpressive.<br /><br /> Good veggies are wasted so much in the the southwest united states. I've introduced people to parsnips turnips rutabagas whole fennel "mostly used only as a seasoning in this part of the world" pumpkins and even most winter squash is used as decoration and never sees the plate perfectly appetizing produce is practically predestined to rot in massive amounts because there is no regulation on how much food is produced and the lack of compassion people go hungry and are even often prosecuted for "stealing" from dumpsters. weather "livestock" or "produce" if people are taking lives of flora and fauna they should at least take care to respect it as a life that was taken to nourish someone.If the rich payed taxes relative to their income and minimum wage was a fair living wage then the acceptance of these cheap and deplorable food industry standards would wain. the porcine politicians pilfer the population of pre proposed Painfully procured puny profits perceived as perfectly proper princes patronize patriot poppers poor passive popular pions poised politely purveying their predestined posts poisoned placations perfect pray palatable portions. President parliament prince pope puppets pets payed perverse portions poorly portraying patriots. perhaps pandemonium is proper penance. FractAllN0nenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-33195220837018981602016-04-19T15:41:24.004+01:002016-04-19T15:41:24.004+01:00In Scotland spring onions used to be called Syboes...In Scotland spring onions used to be called Syboes (pronounced sci-bees (sci as in sci-fi)) but you rarely see this anymore, more common is Spring onions but you may come across it at the odd farmers market.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-14329479694359433432016-01-10T02:53:15.353+00:002016-01-10T02:53:15.353+00:00Found a picture of what in Texas is called Calabac...Found a picture of what in Texas is called Calabacita (top) and zucchini(bottom). http://patismexicantable.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Zuchini2.jpg<br /><br />I've also lived in Kansas and Colorado and have seen Calabacita called Mexican Squash and zucchini called Italian squash and "green" or "yellow" zucchini. The yellow version being what Texans would call yellow squash.<br /><br />I found this site searching for Haricot bean, thinking it was a Haricot or French green bean, only to discover it's a navy bean!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-57036953783953305472015-11-09T02:36:52.473+00:002015-11-09T02:36:52.473+00:00THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR THEIR FASCINATING STORIES O...THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR THEIR FASCINATING STORIES OF VEGIES AND ALL THE DIFFERENT NAMES. I WAS CREATING A WORD DOCUMENT FOR A RECIPE AND WANTED TO ADD SOME CLIP ART OF SILVERBEET AND COULD'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS CALLED IN THE STATES!! WE COOK RHUBARB IN NZ AND AUSSIE IN SWEET PIES AND CRUMBLES(COBBLER?) BUT HAVE HEARD IT CAN BE TOXIC IN LARGE AMOUNTS SO I WOULDN'T EAT IT RAW! I HAVE RECENTLY FOUND A NATIVE NZ SPINACH WHICH IS SO TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM ENGLISH SPINACH AND SILVERBEET(CHARD); IT GROWS IN A CRAWLING FASHION AND SPREADS ALONG THE GROUND. CHEERS AND HAPPY COOKING AND GROWING TO ALL.Skippy Dumplinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752079466769124974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-10936045319226256832015-11-08T14:29:03.377+00:002015-11-08T14:29:03.377+00:00That is the same in London, although the terms are...That is the same in London, although the terms are often used vaguely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-56386827752277484412015-08-03T21:54:03.891+01:002015-08-03T21:54:03.891+01:00Rhubarb is pretty common in Minnesota, we even hav...Rhubarb is pretty common in Minnesota, we even have a local winery that specializes on rhubarb wine, it used to be called pie plant. Tamyrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13312110399654694602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-7351832062233556062015-04-26T06:55:23.870+01:002015-04-26T06:55:23.870+01:00The yellow variety of swedes are known as rutabaga...The yellow variety of swedes are known as rutabagas in the U.S.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-8418898432954521742015-04-23T13:28:03.445+01:002015-04-23T13:28:03.445+01:00You can still buy groundnut oil in British superma...You can still buy <b>groundnut oil</b> in British supermarkets. I haven't noticed this for some time, presumably because the cheap cooking oil that most people buy now is from rapeseed.<br /><br />For obvious reasons, this is not marketed as <i>rape oil</i>.<br /><br />We never,as far as i know, use the term <i>peanut oil</i>.David Crosbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01858358459416955921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-26783559233902708552015-04-23T12:04:46.837+01:002015-04-23T12:04:46.837+01:00When I first became aware of the things, about 65 ...When I first became aware of the things, about 65 years ago, everybody called them <i>monkey nuts</i>. A few years later I finally saw them on sale without the strange covering, and began to hear them described as <i>peanuts</i>.<br /><br />The term <i>groundnut</i> was very much in the news, although I was too young to notice. It denoted some alien agricultural plant that bumbling and corrupt civil servants had spectacularly failed to establish in Tanganyika as a cash crop that would supply the UK with cooking oil. I don't know how many people realised that it was also the source of monkey nuts.<br /><br /><b>Groundnut scheme</b> persisted as a byword for any enterprise that wasted a huge amount of government money. Like most adolescents in the fifties I was only vaguely aware that there had been an actual scheme of that name.<br /><br />Looking it up in Wikipedia just now, I was struck by how recent the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanganyika_groundnut_scheme#Cultural_references" rel="nofollow">cultural references</a> persisted in British humour.David Crosbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01858358459416955921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-6841183224112490632015-04-23T09:30:01.635+01:002015-04-23T09:30:01.635+01:00I *think* I've only seen 'groundnut' i...I *think* I've only seen 'groundnut' in discussions of African cuisine. The Corpus of Global Web-Based English has only a handful of hits in both countries. Slightly more in UK, but nothing statistically significant. lynneguisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-67546615569027009402015-04-23T09:20:23.730+01:002015-04-23T09:20:23.730+01:00How prevalent is 'groundnut' in the UK? I ...How prevalent is 'groundnut' in the UK? I think peanut is also used.<br /><br />In the US, it's peanut exclusively.Kent Wanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18058256134556007166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-83191810979125701722014-09-10T18:22:55.690+01:002014-09-10T18:22:55.690+01:00I think you may have misunderstood the word "...I think you may have misunderstood the word "round" in this context - cylindrical, rather than spherical. You will find a good picture of one <a href="http://www.countrywives.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/marr.gif" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br /><br />Also, courgettes in this country are mostly green; you can grow yellow ones - my parents do, and I have some of theirs in the fridge right now - but they are not sold in the shops. And you can sometimes get gourd-shaped ones like <a href="http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/food/ic/food_16x9_608/foods/s/squash_16x9.jpg" rel="nofollow">these</a> but not often in this country, mostly in France!Mrs Redboots (Annabel Smyth)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11270027663691257254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-6715518156054283192014-09-10T10:52:09.791+01:002014-09-10T10:52:09.791+01:00VERY interesting, thank you!
Haven't have time...VERY interesting, thank you!<br />Haven't have time to read all the comments yet but "courgettes" are not a small type of full, round marrows. Even grown big they never get a round shape. They are long and firm, of a dull orangey colour.<br />(posted by a Frenchie in Southern Fr.)Monique Picard (Mette)https://www.blogger.com/profile/05083074051154351710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-35292026209285961942014-09-07T18:40:57.906+01:002014-09-07T18:40:57.906+01:00Actually, while sometimes people call an overgrown...Actually, while sometimes people call an overgrown courgette/zucchini a marrow, a proper marrow, of the cultivar that's supposed to be one, actually has very much more flavour!<br /><br />Some people do grow spaghetti squash here - I have found it in a farmers' market. I personally don't think it's worth it, but I know a lot of people do like it. I like a good marrow, though - and have half a one in my fridge right now!Mrs Redboots (Annabel Smyth)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11270027663691257254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-68489702271690620002014-09-07T12:21:43.835+01:002014-09-07T12:21:43.835+01:00Hmph. Copied my message twice instead of copying t...Hmph. Copied my message twice instead of copying the link I was trying for. Here it is:<br /><br />https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wallace+and+gromit+marrow&client=firefox-a&hs=4ww&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1T4MVKGbNYThaPj4gdgK&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1151&bih=638lynneguisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-40966481617784197262014-09-07T12:19:50.537+01:002014-09-07T12:19:50.537+01:00Spaghetti squash--and many squashes you see in the...Spaghetti squash--and many squashes you see in the US--are not much known or seen in the UK. If you see 'marrow' on a UK pub menu (which you wouldn't often, they're more the kind of things people grow in gardens and then try to get their friends to take off their hands--much like runner beans, in my experience), it will be referring to something like a really big, watery zucchini/courgette. If I were illustrating 'marrow', I'd go for a picture out of Wallace and Gromit's 'Curse of the Were Rabbit' like these:<br />Spaghetti squash--and many squashes you see in the US--are not much known or seen in the UK. If you see 'marrow' on a UK pub menu (which you wouldn't, often, they're more the kind of things people grow in gardens and then try to get their friends to take off their hands--much like runner beans, in my experience), it will be referring to something like a really big, watery zucchini/courgette. If I were illustrating 'marrow', I'd go for a picture out of Wallace and Gromit's 'Curse of the Were Rabbit' like these.lynneguisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-52807673905097762112014-09-07T12:18:57.416+01:002014-09-07T12:18:57.416+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.lynneguisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-54955425331280659392014-06-13T23:03:24.268+01:002014-06-13T23:03:24.268+01:00Since this thread has resurrected itself, another ...Since this thread has resurrected itself, another comment on broad/lima beans - in the USA, you appear not only to pod the beans, as one should, but also to remove the delicious outer skin of the beans. I tend to buy them frozen, I'm afraid, but here the outer skin is always left on. Sometimes it is removed from beans grown in one's garden if the pod has been overlooked and got a bit elderly, but not unless.Mrs Redboots (Annabel Smyth)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11270027663691257254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-55041572518942105562014-06-13T22:49:50.150+01:002014-06-13T22:49:50.150+01:00As far as I am concerned, kale is cattle food, not...As far as I am concerned, kale is cattle food, not people food!<br /><br />But you are quite right, sprouts here in the UK always means Brussels - if we mean sprouted seeds (which are not a normal sandwich ingredient here, as they can be in the USA), we say so. You can only really buy beansprouts in the supermarkets (although having said that, I did see sprouted lentils today, but they were eye-wateringly expensive).Mrs Redboots (Annabel Smyth)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11270027663691257254noreply@blogger.com