tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post5214577133666139807..comments2024-03-16T00:21:43.240+00:00Comments on Separated by a Common Language: yog(h)urtlynneguisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-24667877422071813682021-10-15T17:30:31.505+01:002021-10-15T17:30:31.505+01:00I'm so confused now! So confused. I wonder if ...I'm so confused now! So confused. I wonder if this particular topic might need revisiting. My local grocery store has Greek, Icelandic Skyr, Bulgarian yogurt, kefir, and french style, as well as whole milk yogurts with very little sweeteners.<br /><br />My only experience with yogurt in the UK was back in 2006 when I was interviewing at the Oxbridges. I recollect it being very runny with an almost oily consistency. I looked at the facts and was horrified (as a weight-conscious college girl) to find that the tiny cup had 12 grams of fat. I couldn't even imagine why anyone would want that. IME french style yogurt was closer to Am style, unless it is the ever-present artificially sweetened nonfat gross stuff that is slowly going out of fashion. But from the comments I'm starting to think my experience of British yogurt was too limited. If I found some today I would be interested in trying it. From the comments it sounds a lot like any standard organic whole milk vanilla, perhaps? (I know this is old. I'm just bingeing on the website.)Emily Lnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-59909069070742551052020-08-25T13:52:55.310+01:002020-08-25T13:52:55.310+01:00As an aside - I've noticed in recent years tha...As an aside - I've noticed in recent years that in French supermarket the yoghurt aisle (and yes, it does take up a whole aisle, often with yoghurts and fromage frais on one side and other potted desserts on the other) often has labels: kids' yoghurt; teens' yoghurt; adult yoghurt..... a bit prescriptive, no?Mrs Redboots (Annabel Smyth)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11270027663691257254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-45331151497233590772020-08-24T13:16:27.981+01:002020-08-24T13:16:27.981+01:00BrE (Scot, 60+). Re sloth. Not all of us. For me, ...BrE (Scot, 60+). Re sloth. Not all of us. For me, sloth has the vowel of dog, not post. I think this is because I read the word frequently long before I heard it spoke. A quick straw poll among colleagues indicates that this is not uncommon, in f not always the nor,.<br /> If I am speaking “proper English with a Scots accent”, yoghourt gas the dog vowel. In my Scots dialect, it has the post vowel.Shy-replyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01891566073375322808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-82746845280733159772020-07-15T02:00:06.609+01:002020-07-15T02:00:06.609+01:00A bit of a bump for this thread. If you are famil...A bit of a bump for this thread. If you are familiar with the pronunciation of "Yogurt" between the US and the UK, the word "Sloth" is interesting, as the "O" is pronounced the total opposite in both countries, so whatever rule you come up with there are always exceptions! :)Matthew Branniganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12231893465697869346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-24285323824644345632012-09-27T14:41:52.775+01:002012-09-27T14:41:52.775+01:00Online grocery shopping? Bah. I pick up the phone,...Online grocery shopping? Bah. I pick up the phone, tell a friendly voice that I'm John, tell him what I want (with the exception of fresh meat, poultry, or fish), and I get it delivered within five minutes. 24 hours a day, seven days a week. If they don't have what I want (which hardly ever happens), they'll send the delivery guy to their other store to get it for me there, which adds maybe ten more minutes to the delay. They don't complain about making four or five deliveries a day, either.<br /><br />The only reason I actually ever go to a supermarket (there are four within easy walking distance) is to save money, and even they deliver.<a href="http://www.vgizmo.com/" rel="nofollow"></a>like.no.otherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16851888520313842260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-56201540450484801932012-09-27T14:40:29.740+01:002012-09-27T14:40:29.740+01:00An interesting tangent - As I'm sure you'...An interesting <a href="http://www.vgizmo.com/" rel="nofollow"></a>tangent - As I'm sure you're aware, German nouns can be one of 3 genders. When you ask Germans the gender of "Joghurt," you will get people who say it is any one of the 3. Based on my experience, it's usually der (masc) or das (neut), but some will also say it's the feminine die.garryhttp://www.vgizmo.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-73959380587109177282012-09-20T04:02:48.306+01:002012-09-20T04:02:48.306+01:00Best British yogurt brands in order of deliciousne...Best British yogurt brands in order of deliciousness:<br />Yeo Valley (pronounced Yo!)<br />Rachel's Organic<br />OnkenJulietdhhttp://www.twitter.com/julietdhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-43593588855224073942012-07-23T09:00:52.414+01:002012-07-23T09:00:52.414+01:00I would just like to say how very, very happy this...I would just like to say how very, very happy this post made me. :)Strawberryyoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01088158170872265875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-59488358722144003992012-07-23T08:59:24.701+01:002012-07-23T08:59:24.701+01:00I would just like to say how very, very happy this...I would just like to say how very, very happy this post made me. :)Strawberryyoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01088158170872265875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-33312978999151107832012-07-18T03:49:32.961+01:002012-07-18T03:49:32.961+01:00this is great! I just found this site and i'm ...this is great! I just found this site and i'm having a good laugh! I was brought up on the (British) English education system and i'm currently living in the US. My diction is becoming so Americanized, my spelling even more atrocious (oh those missing 'u's!!!) . But one thing that never changes is the way I say 'can't'. <br /><br />The other day I ordered two jugs of beer and my dear American friends sniggered. I have since then learnt to place an order for a pitcher. <br /><br />I hope you continue updating this site. I will be reading!punkychewsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01011046035760189001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-80672902384624805832012-07-15T12:17:41.425+01:002012-07-15T12:17:41.425+01:00Dear Anonymous
Yes. Ms Murphy is a busy academic...Dear Anonymous<br /><br />Yes. Ms Murphy is a busy academic, and, poor soul, a mother. She blogs when she can. When she can, it's worth reading. Patience.Pickynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-28261578228006266322012-07-14T07:48:23.618+01:002012-07-14T07:48:23.618+01:00Hey, so did the blog die? I just started reading i...Hey, so did the blog die? I just started reading it. Is it usual for the author to go so many weeks without writing anything?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-84733776068910338572012-07-06T19:52:24.302+01:002012-07-06T19:52:24.302+01:00Oh yes, having your groceries delivered should hav...Oh yes, having your groceries delivered should have made your top three!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-11720601677511566392012-06-30T23:49:29.517+01:002012-06-30T23:49:29.517+01:00I'm English. I'd never heard any other pro...I'm English. I'd never heard any other pronunciation than the 'rhyme with dog' 'yŏggət' one until I heard Australians say yoaggət. <br /><br />I'd normally spell it with an 'h', though the 500 gm tub of Sainsbury's yoghurt in the refrigerator has no 'h', and nor does the kit in the kitchen for making it yourself.<br /><br />Yoghurt was rather little known, and exotic, until it suddenly became popular sometime around the end of the sixties. Very quickly after that, the dessert ones flavoured with fruit etc also appeared. I though, don't think plain yoghurt is really a dessert. It goes well with curry, stews etc, and also to thicken soup.<br /><br />Provided you've got the right sort of thermometer and flask, it's easy to make yoghurt using a bought one as a starter, but it's less trouble to buy it.Drunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-75476724898736617892012-06-27T01:12:20.540+01:002012-06-27T01:12:20.540+01:00In Canada it's yogourt! Works in French or Eng...In Canada it's yogourt! Works in French or English!Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10707554930245556019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-49255027931887109632012-06-26T20:42:07.370+01:002012-06-26T20:42:07.370+01:00The traditional French spelling is yoghourt (or yo...The traditional French spelling is <i>yoghourt</i> (or <i>yogourt</i> in the 1990 rectified spelling), pronounced/jɔ.ɡuʁt/ or /jɔ.ɡuʁ/. It isn't used very often though, most people preferring the simpler <i>yaourt</i> indeed.<br /><br />Yoghurt was a staple at home (I'm French); my father made it himself in a handmade contraption. Most people I know eat the plain variety, sugar-free or not. Yoghurt with fruit bits or fruit puree tends to be for children. Even a humble grocery store will offer half a dozen varieties. In bigger supermarket yoghurts take up whole aisles, and they come in the most bewildering flavours, including crème brûlée or apple tart.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-69983826789666860072012-06-26T20:22:18.373+01:002012-06-26T20:22:18.373+01:00I use a long 'o' and a hard 'g', a...I use a long 'o' and a hard 'g', and tend to spell it with an 'h', but I've had arguments with spellcheckers on that matter.<br /><br />I really liked yoghurt in Germany when I lived there. The greek yoghurts are a bit thick for my taste. I am not a fan of the major brands in the US (gelatine + high fructose corn syrup - in yoghurt?!), but there are a lot of natural brands that are really quite good.hollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10096332421127152188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-61639974698793844302012-06-26T01:00:15.706+01:002012-06-26T01:00:15.706+01:00If I used the "dog" sound as we pronounc...If I used the "dog" sound as we pronounce it in Philly, I'd be saying yaw-gurt! :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-49009566754843816762012-06-24T06:10:55.100+01:002012-06-24T06:10:55.100+01:00Great discussion.
My wife and I (NZers) both use ...Great discussion.<br /><br />My wife and I (NZers) both use the 'dog' sound perhaps because yoghurt first became part of our diet when living in London in the 70s. Both pronunciations and spellings occur here but I couldn't say whether one or other is predominant.Thiersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-71644865628320375212012-06-24T01:12:07.748+01:002012-06-24T01:12:07.748+01:00my mum, who grew up near Brighton in the 50's ...my mum, who grew up near Brighton in the 50's and 60's, speaks of getting yoghurt from the milk float, but my grandmother had also picked up strange foreign eating habits from having lived in Asia just after the War and made her own as well.ellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13036209994244477176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-6456954591745515672012-06-22T13:38:57.711+01:002012-06-22T13:38:57.711+01:00Actually my grandmother used to buy it in Soho in ...Actually my grandmother used to buy it in Soho in the late 1950s/early 1960s, but it was considered very rich and rare and Not Suitable for Small Girls. I remember it was natural yoghurt, and I do remember my mother stirring Ribena into hers to help it down. I was surprised when I first went to France to discover that natural yoghurt there was eaten with sugar, having always eaten mine plain.<br /><br />Most natural yoghurt, even today, is "live" and will propagate if stirred into milk at the requisite temperature.Mrs Redboots (Annabel Smyth)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11270027663691257254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-37219325997766048842012-06-22T13:01:24.760+01:002012-06-22T13:01:24.760+01:00Like Mrs Redboots, I didn't taste yoghurt unti...Like Mrs Redboots, I didn't taste yoghurt until the late '60s. I'd seen it in Greece, and I'd vaguely heard of it, but I'd never seen the stuff in a British shop. <br /><br />More to the point, the milkman didn't carry it on his float. I suspect the greater variety in dairy goods from that time was due to changed shopping habits. I first discovered yoghurt in the food department of a department store. Most people first discovered it in supermarkets.<br /><br />I don't think anybody has mentioned <b>live</b> yoghurts. I remember when they could be found outside health-food shops, but I haven't seen them for some time. They must still exist — how else could you operate a yoghurt-maker?David Crosbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01858358459416955921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-20355009662234841272012-06-22T12:18:28.384+01:002012-06-22T12:18:28.384+01:00Here comes two distinct accounts on "yoghurt&...Here comes two distinct accounts on "yoghurt": (i) types of yoghurt and (ii) pronunciation of yoghurt.<br /><br />(i) types of yoghurt<br />There are different kinds of yoghurt in Turkey depending on (i) ratio of fat in milk and (ii) its pasteurization. In regard to (i), there are all fat, fat, semi-skimmed, skimmed .etc yoghurts. Concerning (ii), there are short and long lived yoghurts. And also there are lots of yoghurts. We can make an exhaustive list on types of yoghurts but it makes you sleep. Thus, eating and listing types of yoghurts are dangerous.<br /><br />In regard to (ii - pronunciation), as you have stated, the letter "ğ" lenghtens the sound of the vowel preceding it. However, it also remains silent between two vowels. In literary translation, the letter "ğ" is named as "soft g" and it lacks corresponding "consonantal" sound in standard Turkish. Further, it is pronounced as a voiced velar fricative in some dialects of Turkish. <br /><br />When a suffix follows "ğ":<br />1. it becomes inaudible:<br />ex: geldiğin (that you come): [geldi:n]<br />2. with surrounding front vowels, it is pronounced as palatal glide:<br />ex: düğün (wedding): [düjün]eyaglihttp://www.eyagli.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-51941995884817287542012-06-21T12:18:44.156+01:002012-06-21T12:18:44.156+01:00Nobody has mentioned French-style "set" ...Nobody has mentioned French-style "set" yoghurt (not set as with gelatine, but softly solid rather than semi-liquid). I developed a taste for it during a year I spent in Lausanne in the '70s. Most UK supermarket chains now sell a version of it, usually in the same selection of flavours, unfortunately.<br />In Switzerland, all yoghurt was "set". Vanilla- or chocolate- flavoured cost 5 centimes more than plain, and fruit-flavoured another 5 centimes more.<br /><br />Kate (Derby, UK)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-15979015350537839952012-06-21T08:44:57.740+01:002012-06-21T08:44:57.740+01:00This is marvellous marvellous stuff. The writing I...This is marvellous marvellous stuff. The writing I mean. And the yoghurt too, of course. :)Strawberryyoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01088158170872265875noreply@blogger.com