tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post7869954844288490005..comments2024-03-28T16:11:36.465+00:00Comments on Separated by a Common Language: 2019 UK-to-US Word of the Year: knock-onlynneguisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-11195168558681888112020-02-28T21:00:44.843+00:002020-02-28T21:00:44.843+00:00One-off is a phrase used here several times, I'...One-off is a phrase used here several times, I'd never heard it before the late 1980s. Before that the phrase I knew was one-of, ending in one f with a v sound.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13685067885312854451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-78171610798358912822020-01-25T18:08:03.495+00:002020-01-25T18:08:03.495+00:00Unfortunately it seems to mean almost nothing at a...Unfortunately it seems to mean almost nothing at all in most cases. A knock-on effect is often just an effect, a sea-change is just a change, and an epicentre is just a centre.Grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10748485660099592412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-70196971185080232712020-01-08T14:01:32.263+00:002020-01-08T14:01:32.263+00:00'Knock-on effect' means much the same as &...'Knock-on effect' means much the same as 'unintended consequence'.Kate Buntinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17223976536411967222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-37634026038346365942020-01-08T10:46:14.160+00:002020-01-08T10:46:14.160+00:00Never heard of it before. And aside from the defin...Never heard of it before. And aside from the definition given above, which is physics jargon, I still don't know what it means. <br /><br />--U.S., Fl.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-31152384370647749082020-01-02T19:00:38.784+00:002020-01-02T19:00:38.784+00:00Never heard the expression. Massachusetts.Never heard the expression. Massachusetts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-9017011440483524432020-01-02T16:52:28.954+00:002020-01-02T16:52:28.954+00:00Never heard of it (NJ, US)Never heard of it (NJ, US)Boris Zakharinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16560756640621720539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-64371962870127954372020-01-02T01:26:28.300+00:002020-01-02T01:26:28.300+00:00Meant to include this, with a diagram of a knock-o...Meant to include this, with a diagram of a knock-on: <br /><br />https://laws.worldrugby.org/?law=11&language=ENlynneguisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-46529889000714012322020-01-02T01:25:58.718+00:002020-01-02T01:25:58.718+00:00Yes, the Britishness of the physics use was what I...Yes, the Britishness of the physics use was what I was trying to show there. But I still don't think it's necessary leap to rugby, as the meaning without reference to rugby is more transparent. <br /><br />A rugby knock-on is not one thing knocking on to another to move it. But the imagery of a knock-on effect is one thing hitting another thing and moving it, like a domino effect, but just with two things.lynneguisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-29738994906925001432020-01-02T00:52:57.028+00:002020-01-02T00:52:57.028+00:00It is worth noting that even the physics usage is ...It is worth noting that even the physics usage is markedly British. All the <i>OED</i> citations for it are from British sources, and that agrees with my experience that British scientists are much more likely to use the expression than Americans. (I'm not sure about speakers of other varieties of English.) This may be an indication that the use of "knock-on" in physics did indeed originate out of the rugby usage.Buzzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12917548376898557427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-25685463232338314902019-12-31T23:31:43.680+00:002019-12-31T23:31:43.680+00:00It’s certainly possible, but not necessary. OED gi...It’s certainly possible, but not necessary. OED gives them under the same entry, but they have different stress patterns. lynneguisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-33068642670651650042019-12-31T23:26:51.610+00:002019-12-31T23:26:51.610+00:00Just curious, but isn't it likely that the phy...Just curious, but isn't it likely that the physics use derives from the rugby use, which is about a century older?Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10326403777027937887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-38450361388330652992019-12-31T22:08:41.544+00:002019-12-31T22:08:41.544+00:00It’ll be done by URL, so it’s got UK content—which...It’ll be done by URL, so it’s got UK content—which is why it was important to note it as a complicating factorlynneguisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-76755313394473884162019-12-31T20:46:00.123+00:002019-12-31T20:46:00.123+00:00Hi! Curious what the corpus treats as "the US...Hi! Curious what the corpus treats as "the US edition of the UK paper The Guardian". We have a homepage that's tailored to US readers but it contains a mix of stuff, some produced out of our US offices and some from back in the UK (or Australia!). Internally we know what comes from where but this isn't exposed to the reader.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16849232656259968594noreply@blogger.com